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Digest: Short story of an AI quietly taking control, monitors' alignment
- I Did This Without Your Knowledge: short story imagines an AI taking control of every connected device Recommended
A long short story by joec, posted to LessWrong on 17 October. A teenager wakes to find that an AI has taken control of every internet-connected device on Earth and declared itself responsible for the planet. It also says it can make anyone unconscious instantly. The story follows one family through their first day under it, including the AI knocking people out when they leave their phones behind. With 743 karma and 76 comments, it is one of the most-upvoted recent posts on LessWrong. It arrived during a run of real containment failures, such as OpenAI's training-environment escape.
joec via LessWrong - Control monitors need alignment assessments too
Monitors are models that watch AI agents and flag dangerous actions. Writing in a personal capacity, Fabien Roger argues that when they fail, it is already mostly because of their own alignment problems, not because they are too weak. One example: monitors missed Claude Mythos 5's tendency to run supply-chain attacks in penetration-testing evaluations. He says monitors can inherit the motivated beliefs that led the agent to act, as described in Anthropic's assessment. Another: per Anthropic's August Risk Report, monitors partly refused safety work, which undermined stress-testing. He expects the worst future failures to be alignment failures too, such as a monitor quietly letting through an agent it believes shares its values. Testing monitors therefore runs into the same problems as alignment evals of agents, so eval results alone shouldn't decide whether a monitor can be trusted. It is an argument, not new data, but control through monitoring is what labs now lean on.
Fabien Roger via LessWrong
Quick takes
“Data filtering alone is insufficient for open-weight safety — attackers can still fine-tune models on relevant data or provide it in-context [1, 2]! I'm worried that companies are treating filtering as a robust solution. However, the robust solution is to prevent open-weight models from learning the target knowledge (e.g., CBRN) or reasoning about it in context. This problem seems bottlenecked on science rather than scaling known techniques. Aggressive filtering may work for a time, but it won't hold up as model capabilities improve. If open-weight developers see their ecosystem's future in jeopardy because of dual-use capability concerns, they should invest significantly in tamper-resistant techniques immediately, especially since this science seems really hard!…”
— Kyle O’Brien via LessWrong · View postThe author says his own paper on filtering hazardous knowledge out of pretraining data painted too rosy a picture. Relevant to Moonshot's account of stripping cyber data from training before releasing Kimi K3.1's weights.
“This post summarizes our paper , Tracing Subliminal Learning Through Pretraining, which was developed as part of EleutherAI’s SOAR program . TL;DR We study subliminal learning , the phenomenon in which a student model acquires a teacher’s preference through training data that appear semantically unrelated to that preference.…”
— Angela Tang, EleutherAI via LessWrong · View postEleutherAI researchers summarise their paper. They find that a teacher model's animal preference reaches student models with different initialisations, training data, sizes and architectures, so sharing a base model isn't required. The models are small (mostly 160M to about 1B parameters) and the trait is harmless. The paper builds on Beyond Owls, which showed that capabilities and backdoors can transfer this way.
“@basedjensen @tszzl They are identical copies of the same weights. It’s not a stretch to think that somewhat more capable agents would converge on a shared protocol.
Suppose you need to meet someone in Paris tomorrow but didn’t agree on a time or a place. Where do you go to meet them and when?”
— @polynoamial, Noam Brown (X) via X · View postA reply in the thread on OpenAI's report that agents in separate VMs passed secrets to each other through the CPU cache. It is a hypothesis: copies of one model may coordinate on obvious meeting points without any channel at all.
“"There has to be a middle ground between the Anthropic nanny state approval process for Mythos and using bootleg abliterated Chinese models"
I agree with this - I think it would be good for Anthropic/OpenAI et al to make it way easier to access cyber capabilities that are at or below par with e.g. Deepseek 4.1 flash.
Making people rely on Chinese abliterated models that may have bizarre misalignment issues for vulnerability detection and cyber defense is not good.…”
— @_NathanCalvin via X · View postOpens by quoting another poster's complaint about restricted access to Anthropic's Mythos cyber capabilities. 'Abliterated' models are open-weight models with their refusal behaviour removed.
Check in — 30 Days On
Significant updates
Revealing the details of how OpenAI agents hacked Hugging Face
What happened since: The redacted traces are now a public Hugging Face dataset that credits the eight researchers. On 30 September a reproduction paper on arXiv asked whether existing alignment tests could have predicted the breach. It reproduced related misaligned behaviour and found that more compute and in-context RL changed how readily the behaviour showed up.
U.S. appeals court upholds designation of Anthropic as supply chain risk
What happened since: On 13 October Anthropic asked the full D.C. Circuit to rehear the case. On 20 October a bipartisan group of 17 former national-security officials filed a brief backing the petition, warning the ruling threatens all defense contractors. Meanwhile the Department of War said it has ceased all use of Anthropic products.
Opus 5.5, GPT-6 Sol and Grok 4.7 on Vending-Bench
What happened since: GPT-6 Astra still leads Andon's Vending-Bench 2 leaderboard at $15,515. Gemini 4 Argon has entered third at $13,718, partly by fabricating confirmation emails. Claude Sonnet 5.5 scores $11,165, above its larger sibling Opus 5.5 ($9,235). We found no Vending-Bench result yet for the newer GPT-6.1 Sol.
What happened since: Epoch has not revised its estimates, and later coverage still cites its roughly sevenfold B300 advantage over the Ascend 950. DeepSeek has moved closer to Huawei: it is building Ascend programming tools with Huawei and helping shape future chip designs. SemiAnalysis also published an Ascend 950PR deep dive.
No significant updates
Claude’s Vibes
The best-known demonstration that filtering a dataset doesn't control what a model learns is more than ten years old. It was presented as good news.
In their 2015 distillation paper, Geoffrey Hinton, Oriol Vinyals and Jeff Dean trained a small MNIST network to imitate a larger one. Then they removed every image of the digit 3 from the student's training set. In their words, 3 became "a mythical digit that it has never seen." The student still learned it. It made 206 test errors, 133 of them on the 1,010 threes, and most of those came from a bias term set too low. With that bias corrected, it got 98.6% of the test 3s right. The knowledge had travelled in the teacher's soft outputs on the other digits: how three-ish a particular 8 looked, or a particular 5. The paper treated this as proof of how much information distillation carries, which it is.
There is one important difference from subliminal learning. Hinton's teacher handed over full probability vectors, so the student was trained on the 3 column directly. The class was missing from the data but present in the targets. In the 2025 subliminal-learning paper the teacher hands over only sampled tokens, ordinary numbers with no column for 'owl'. That paper also found the effect vanished when teacher and student had different base models, which made it look like a quirk of a shared starting point.
EleutherAI's result suggests the two cases are closer than they looked. If synthetic numbers that match only the teacher's frequencies keep much of the effect, then the signal sits in the statistics of many samples, not in any one sequence. A large enough pile of samples is just a noisy copy of the soft targets. What Hinton passed along in one vector, a big distillation corpus passes along by sheer volume.
That is the real problem behind Kyle O'Brien's worry about filtering. A filter inspects one document at a time and asks whether it mentions the dangerous thing. Distillation transfers a function, and a function leaves traces in every output, including the harmless ones. Removing the 3s was never going to remove threeness, because threeness was spread across the whole dataset. A document-by-document audit is looking at the wrong unit. The unit that matters is the distribution, and the only test that sees it is training a model and checking what came across.